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Crossover Chick ([personal profile] crossover_chick) wrote2010-12-10 11:56 pm

Kidlet Day

First off, Victor's become a kid over at [livejournal.com profile] ink_sec_sims. He's so adorable it hurts, really.
-TTV: *mildly embarrassed*-
It's true! Anyway, between that, Moose gushing over her wee!Arthur, and Ael's Clark and his girlfriend reenacting one of the most depressing Smallville episodes ever, I find myself in the mood for discussing kids. Specifically, I'm thinking of the "Secundus"-verse kids. Did I ever tell you about them?
-VD: Actually, no, I don't think you did. Most of what you've talked about when it comes to Victor/Alice children is "Solicitor's Ward"-based.-
Aha! So, time for some prattling. I do intend for all the mains to have kids at some point. Yes, this includes Doc -- although he doesn't meet Clara in "Secundus," I HAVE had some vague ideas for a sequel fic that goes to Hill Valley and involves her somehow. At any rate, he does get married and reproduce, much like in Part III. Here's some initial lists for the kidlets:
Victor/Alice: Chester, Vincent & Lorina (twins)
Marty/Jennifer: Douglas & Marlene (twins)
Doc/Clara: Jules, Verne
Sir Christopher/Victoria: Jonathan, Mabel
Richard/Emily: Charlotte (adopted)
As you can see, Chester remains a constant, though I mixed things up by giving Victor two boys this time, instead of two girls. And, as usual, I'm naming the male half of the McFly twins Douglas instead of Marty Jr. I've been wondering if he or Doc shouldn't have a third kid, though. Just to make things interesting.
-TD: *shrug* Your universe. I don't think they'd mind.-
-WRM: *teasing* So, when do Jules and Marlene get married?-
Shortly after Douglas and Lorina do.
-WRM: *blink blink* Douglas -- and Lorina?-
-VuM: Whoa, wait, everybody ends up related here?-
I like the in-laws thing! And to tell the truth, this isn't he first "one McFly marries a Brown, the other marries a Van Dort" situation I came up with.
-HD: *pouring tea in his hat for some reason* Really? What's the first?-
It's in "Cinder-Marty"/"Love Will Find A Way"-verse. Marlene marries Jules, while Douglas marries Lorina again. Which has the interesting result of making Nell's dreams come true -- Douglas is the heir, so she's got her grandchild ON THE THRONE.
-TTV: *mumbling* Oh, she'd become impossible to live with.-
*overhearing* Not really, as that version of you would never let her forget that she was completely opposed to him and Alice before. He and Alice may make up with their respective families, but they're never going to have a close relationship with them again.
-TTV: *sigh* I'm so glad you write the Liddells as liking me in all other universes.-
Yeah, me too actually. I don't particularly like the Liddells of "Love Will Find A Way." Damn "feuding families" plot. . . .

[identity profile] martyfan.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
OH MY GOD "Ageless" is so depressing indeed. I don't even like kids and the entire post I'm going I WANNA SAVE HIM. But no. Because then we would have Clark and April adopting a kid who was physically only like three years younger than them and it would be way too complicated. Sorry, Evan. You have to die for my convenience. And Clark's character development. (And is it sad that I'm so excited that Clark gets to die in a few weeks?)

[identity profile] docsgirl.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
SMALLVILLE RIPPED MY HEART OUT AND I DON'T EVEN WATCH IT D:

I can understand why Evan had to die, though. His living with them would lead to all sorts of plot complications and suchlike that I don't think Clark and April are quite ready to deal with. Still, though. . . . :(

(Maybe a little. :p)

[identity profile] kalel-ofkrypton.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
I KNOW RIGHT?

I have never really liked "Ageless" that much as an episode, because it just wasn't that interesting to me, and I wanted to skip over it. But I figured that it's important to Clark's character development, and I could use it to force him to have awkward conversation with April on future children, and then I started getting into his head during the episode and oh my God, my heart. :(

[identity profile] docsgirl.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
*nodnod* The instant you start seeing it from the character's perspective, you're done for. Poor Clark. :( (And poor April and Evan too, naturally. Poor everybody.) I just wanted to give everybody all the hugs in that whole situation.

[identity profile] kalel-ofkrypton.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, me too. I'm really glad that April-mun decided to end it with the family grief-huddle, because otherwise I think Clark would've gone off and brooded forever. In the episode, April (obviously) wasn't there, so it was Lana instead who was helping Clark with Evan, and she just kind of... disappeared from the episode after Evan exploded. And Clark did a lot of moping on the porch until his parents came and gave him the talk about how parents are always afraid of having their child die before them, and how just because he's an alien doesn't mean he won't have kids someday, because they couldn't and they still had a son. And Clark was just kind of like "yeah, okay, whatever" and didn't really look like he felt better about it at all. But then, season four Clark was really mopey about everything, and April's helped my Clark avoid a lot of that, thank goodness. Otherwise I would be depressed FOREVER.

[identity profile] docsgirl.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, really. Nice writing, guys, having Lana just vanish after all of that. *pokes the Smallville writers* I'm glad we're avoiding eternally mopey!Clark. The poor guy seems to need a lot more happy in his life. (And we don't want you depressed forever either.)

[identity profile] kalel-ofkrypton.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
It's actually kind of disturbing how the writers ignore some people. I mean, Lana was as attached to Evan as Clark was, and when Evan exploded she didn't even really cry. She just hugged Clark and then... nothing. For the rest of the episode.

Not to mention how they completely glossed over Evan vaporizing his mom at the beginning of the episode. Because you get to see her in labor and then she starts glowing and KABOOM, and then Clark and Lana find a baby in a crater. With no sign of the mom or the car she was in. And then when Chloe figures it out it's kind of callous how they don't even seem to care that she's, you know, DEAD. That's one reason why I added in a line to one of my tags about Clark wondering if he has her ashes on his boots, because seriously, it's HORRIFYING.

[identity profile] docsgirl.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's actually pretty damn creepy. Makes Lana look at least a little sociopathic and suchlike.

Yikes. Yeah, let's have a little compassion for the poor girl who got vaporized by her own baby. (Not that it's Evan's fault -- oh man, I just thought about how he might feel about that.) Dark as hell episode.

[identity profile] kalel-ofkrypton.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
In a way, Evan accidentally killed BOTH his parents. His accelerated aging not only made his mom go through nine months of pregnancy in a week, but he also vaporized her (and everything within THIRTY FEET) when he was born. And then when he went to go see his father as a teenager, they got in a fight (because Tanner was freaked out and refused to admit he HAD a son, because week-long pregnancies are just fucked up), and the dad fell on this spiky tool thing that was in the shop and died. At least with the dad, they bothered to make Evan completely horrified about it, though Clark and Lex (who found the body) were more worried that it just meant Evan had no donor. Which, you know, kind of makes sense, but... no sympathy for the mom just makes me mad now.

[identity profile] docsgirl.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, me too. WTF, people, just because her manner of death left no corpse she gets no sympathy? *does not get the writers at all*

[identity profile] kalel-ofkrypton.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
Evan didn't have a body left after he exploded either, but he got sympathy because, you know, he was a PERSON and all. His mom was just an incubator or some shit like that. I don't even know.

[identity profile] docsgirl.livejournal.com 2010-12-11 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't even know either. It's just annoying as all hell. >.